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Over Xmas, Santa and the gods of 3D told me it was time for a PC upgrade, and me , only knowing vaguely what I am doing in that area, thought I should run my planned new system by you guys for some basic C&C before I go buy stuff and get building...

 

My main focus is modelling, but I do need a bit of a render boost too, and plan to be entering the world of GPU rendering with Redshift, so I figure I need a machine with pretty decent graphics power, but not necessarily top-end as I am also on a low-medium budget for this - wanna spend around £2.5K including OS and a new 27 inch screen if I can.  But also want some decent general C4D single thread improvements if I can get them without going too mental budget-wise for in-app performance, and a reasonable amount of CPU cores for when I want to test the native renderers.

 

In addition to Cinema this will also be an Audio / Video Workstation running DaVinci Resolve and Steinberg's Cubase 10 and a sh*tload of (mainly orchestral) virtual instruments and plugins.

 

Currently I am planning this Win 10 system, which seems to give me most of what I want for not too many of the $$$...

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12 core (3.8GHz standard, 4.7GHz Boost)

Cooler: Wraith Prism Fan cooling (shipped with processor, to be upgraded in Summer if needed)

 

MB: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro AMD AM4 X570 Chipset ATX

PSU: Gigabyte GP-G750H 750W 80 plus (free with MB!)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro Black Full Tower

 

RAM: 64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz Dual Channel Memory (RAM) Kit (x 2)

GPU: Gigabyte Aorus GeForce RTX 2070 8GB

 

Audio-MIDI I/O: Focusrite Scarlett 4i4 (external USB), Genelec, KRK.

 

Storage: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Solid State Drive/SSD (system drive) + WD Blue 2TB 3.5"

 

So, if those of you that know would be kind enough to cast a critical eye over that and let me know about any awaiting traps, or anything that might not work with something else, or what else I could consider, I would very much appreciate your input.

 

Muchly thankings

 

CBR

 

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3 minutes ago, Hrvoje said:

Consider getting even better PSU

Cheers, Hrvoje.  I think that might be a good call given the amount of Hard Drives (4 total, 2 from current machine) and power-hungry USB devices that are going to be in there. 

 

CBR

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9 minutes ago, digitvisions said:

All i can advise is disconnect the HDD before loading the OS.😆

Lols - Yes I was aware of that little trapdoor, but thanks for the warning... I would also have gone for the 2080 Super, but had to split the cash between that and some pro audio gear 😉 I'll have to live with my slightly slower renders !

 

CBR

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That psu is more than enough. The cpu will top out at 200watts, as will the gpu. The power draw of harddrives, fans and ssds is negligible. At full tilt you would struggle to draw 500 watts, so 750 is ample.

Theres no reason to pick a slow 2.5" SSD, choose a much faster M.2 nvme drive.

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32 minutes ago, imashination said:

Theres no reason to pick a slow 2.5" SSD, choose a much faster M.2 nvme drive.

 

Oh good catch - I hadn't spotted that was a slow 2.5 incher ! Will replace and update in spec.

 

CBR

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22 hours ago, Cerbera said:

Over Xmas, Santa and the gods of 3D told me it was time for a PC upgrade, and me , only knowing vaguely what I am doing in that area, thought I should run my planned new system by you guys for some basic C&C before I go buy stuff and get building...

 

My main focus is modelling, but I do need a bit of a render boost too, and plan to be entering the world of GPU rendering with Redshift, so I figure I need a machine with pretty decent graphics power, but not necessarily top-end as I am also on a low-medium budget for this - wanna spend around £2.5K including OS and a new 27 inch screen if I can.  But also want some decent general C4D single thread improvements if I can get them without going too mental budget-wise for in-app performance, and a reasonable amount of CPU cores for when I want to test the native renderers.

 

In addition to Cinema this will also be an Audio / Video Workstation running DaVinci Resolve and Steinberg's Cubase 10 and a sh*tload of (mainly orchestral) virtual instruments and plugins.

 

Currently I am planning this Win 10 system, which seems to give me most of what I want for not too many of the $$$...

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12 core (3.8GHz standard, 4.7GHz Boost)

Cooler: Wraith Prism Fan cooling (shipped with processor, to be upgraded in Summer if needed)

 

MB: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro AMD AM4 X570 Chipset ATX

PSU: Gigabyte GP-G750H 750W 80 plus (free with MB!)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro Black Full Tower

 

RAM: 64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz Dual Channel Memory (RAM) Kit (x 2)

GPU: Gigabyte Aorus GeForce RTX 2070 8GB

 

Audio-MIDI I/O: Focusrite Scarlett 4i4 (external USB), Genelec, KRK.

 

Storage: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Solid State Drive/SSD (system drive) + WD Blue 2TB 3.5"

 

So, if those of you that know would be kind enough to cast a critical eye over that and let me know about any awaiting traps, or anything that might not work with something else, or what else I could consider, I would very much appreciate your input.

 

Muchly thankings

 

CBR

 

Nice Setup

 

I got almost the same 

 

I am running R9 3900X

Stock Prims Cooler

 

X570 Pro Mobo from Asus

32GB DDR4 3200Mhz on Two lanes so 2x 16 GB

 

RTX 2080 Super ( However i want to add another GPU like 1080TI for gaming so i don't lose productivity )

 

2TB SSHD Barracuda 

1TB M2 Corsair 

PSU SuperFlower 850W

Now i am wondering shall i chunk another 2 lanes of 32 GB or no. Sometimes when i model it hits like 59% utilisation on ram 

 

 

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If you have a sh*tload of virtual instruments (sampled based I assume) you might consider a larger SSD, Or an extra 2TB SSD to replace the HDD, and put your samples on there.

I have just replaced my 500GB SSD in the laptop with a Crucial 2TB to hold all sample libraries, which I "less than occasionally" use to create video backgrounds ... have about 1.2 TB of VIs. I know, in my case it's a waste of the space, since I maybe use the VIs once a year ... if not less (figure of speech).

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That's a good point there @C4DS - thank you for making it ! I agree, it would make a lot more sense if all the VSTs were loading their wavs and samples from SSD too. OK then, looks like this might be SSD all the way in terms of new drives ! Now just gotta sort out which interfaces those are best running from...

 

CBR

 

 

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Another point to make, if you're looking into putting the VSTs on a different SSD from the operating system, then remember that the writing isn't that important, but the reading is. You'll probably only write once, read many in terms of sample library usage.

As such, it might be worthwhile to have a cheaper Samsung 4TB QVO for your sample libraries. I didn't want to go that route since I only have a single drive in the laptop, and operating system then need to share the same disk as the sample libraries, so I also need to pay attention for the writing speed.

Looking at the vi-control.net forums (that's where I get my mustard) 64GB seems to be quite "low" amount of RAM these days, when it comes to large templates in DAW.

Just make sure to allow room for expansion, if you go 64GB. Don't use up all your memory banks.

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Thanks to everyone that has contributed so far. Made a few changes to the plan as follows.

 

Swapped out the 2070 for a 2070 super... more bang for buck etc...

Got a slightly lesser but much cheaper, less 'gamey' motherboard - that is now a Gigabyte X570 UD  (£130 less!)

Only disadvantage I can see there is that I only have 1 m.2 slot, which I will use for the system drive.

 

The other drive, which was going to be a 2TB mechanical jobby is now being replaced with a 2TB Sata SSD, which is where I think I'll keep my initial round of VSTs. I don't feel I need M.2 speeds for that, as samples load at session start and on patch change, so playback doesn't depend on it. I have a friend who runs a staggering amount of VSTs and he seems well happy with SATA SSD.

Not sure I can stretch to 4 TB out of the gate, so might do 2 for now, and add another one later when it's inevitably needed...

 

38 minutes ago, C4DS said:

Just make sure to allow room for expansion, if you go 64GB.

 

Yeah I was having some trouble finding a 2 x 32GB kit initially (or was put off by the price difference!), but I am told they are out there (for not that much more), so will look harder ! Quite agree I should leave 2 slots free for if I ever find that 64GB isn't cutting the mustard...

 

Lastly that case was a bit OTT, and I got talked out of keeping any optical drives, so have replaced that and saved further cash with this one...

 

Hopefully I haven't made any horrible mistakes in those changes ?!

 

Cheers guys...

 

CBR

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