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Proposal of new Tagging System & integration of C4D - Blender - Houdini


Igor

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Whether there need to be subforums will depend mostly on how many posts will accumulate. I somehow doubt there will be hundreds per month.

 

Subforums are also difficult because there are three different criteria, which are all valid: "target" system, "source" system, and "functional area". As a thread poster, I can easily determine all three (but if there are static subforums, not necessarily decide by what to order); if I am a reader of the forum, I may want to look at any of these criteria depending on my motivation. Am I primarily interested in seeing how other DCCs are doing things I know already from my DCC? - then I am looking for one source and disregard the target. Am I more interested in seeing how I can do things in my DCC that others and excelling in? - then I am looking for one target and disregard the source. Am I generally interested in the field and want to compare any source/target? Then I would look for a functional area. Am I just idly browsing? Then I don't need any subforums.

 

A tagging system seems to be most useful here.

 

Also, long term it should be good practice to mention source and target version. C4D R15 and R23 are far apart in functionality, so are Blender 2.79 and 2.93... any tip or specific workflow may become invalid in time.

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Good points, @Cairyn, like I said, setting up something like this just sounds easy, but in that's really not the case. I will implement the tags and then open the forums and we can try using it and polish if something is not clear.

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I pretty much agree with all the comments here.  Let the tag system and the search capability do all the work rather than the moderators trying to organize things.  Maybe we should have a more discussion on requiring tags and tag categories when creating a new topic.  Right now, when you create a new topic, you just select through two forum levels (eg. Modeling --> Organic) but I am thinking it might be a better to start with NOT having any pre-defined sub-forum directories...initially

Rather, start with only one forum category for each DCC app as proposed, but should you want to create a new topic in that forum (eg. Blender, modo, Houdini, etc), you are "required" to select a number of tags to help define that post.  So when you want to create a post in the Houdini forum, there are no sub-forums but there are requirements on the selecting main "task" subject area tags (modeling, texturing, rigging, etc) and then another tag for workflow categories (viewport manipulation, object handling, UI, import/export), and then a third tag on tools and techniques (splines, topology, instances, xrefs).  Finally, you are asked if this topic involves cross-platform navigation and if yes, it then asks for a target app.  Again, these are just examples of tag categories and not a complete list but I think Task,  Workflow, and Tools are pretty logical tag major categories to get the discussion going.

 

If you don't work through these tag selections, the member is warned that their post will go to general category under each DCC forum and therefore runs the risk of NOT being seen or addressed as all moderators have different skills but limited time and therefore need guidance as to which questions they can answer quickly.  Whether this is true or not, the user should realize that some effort is required on their part if they want to get the help they need.  

 

Not sure if this can be done or not, but I think as these other DCC forums get rolling, it is hard to define what the structure will be or which structure works best as the content will be pretty low.  So focus more on the classification piece first before you focus on the forum structure and then let the tags guide you at a later date  on what structure to follow once things get busy.  Not sure if you have tools for moving and grouping entire threads based on tag groupings or not, but if you do then that should make creating a structure at a later date much easier.

 

There is another reason for this suggestion.....I think coming across a number of empty forum categories is a bit off-putting to new posters particularly if they are looking for help.  You look at an empty forum and you may come to the wrong conclusion that this is a dead site and not worth your time.  At least the "general" section will have some posts if all the forum members fail to use the tag system.  And of course, once a subject is marked "solved" by the moderator, they can add the missing tags.

 

Just a thought.

Dave

Sorry...but I simply do not have enough faith to be an atheist.

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Ok guys, lets try with tags. Ill make a suggestion of which tags we could use and we go from there. This tagging might work actually. So before I do anything Ill make a proposal here just to check if we are all on the same page, before I comin to any structural changes. 

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So guys, I was able to find a nice plugin with advanced Tags features which could be very promising and easy to use.

 

With tagging it really seems to have potential to make things easier to organize while keeping things simple enough. So we could basically strip down subforums to most necessary general topics like Modeling, Materials, Rendering, Riggins, Animation as we already have, and then like you guys suggested with tags simply tag a DCC and subtopic like hard surface or organic and so on. 

 

I will be performing an upgrade of IPS and after that install and implement the tags we could use...so those tags would and could be:

 

As prefix: Cinema 4D, Blender, Houdini ...

As we have Subforums for Modeling, Materials, Rigging, Animation and Rendering we will not need those tags, but instead we could add tags like HardsSurface, Organic, Splines, Redshift, Arnold, IK, FK, Nodes and so on...

 

And it would look similar to this:

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So what do you think?

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  • Igor changed the title to Proposal of new Tagging System & integration of C4D - Blender - Houdini
On 9/6/2021 at 8:57 AM, Igor said:

Ok guys, lets try with tags. Ill make a suggestion of which tags we could use and we go from there. This tagging might work actually. So before I do anything Ill make a proposal here just to check if we are all on the same page, before I comin to any structural changes. 

Igor,

 

Apart from tag changes, did anything else change?

 

I ask because I am not sure how I became a newbie overnight:

 

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Now, can you change my age too?  I want to be 18 again. 😆

 

Dave

Sorry...but I simply do not have enough faith to be an atheist.

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11 minutes ago, 3D-Pangel said:

 

Apart from tag changes, did anything else change?

 

I guess this is a consequence of upgrading the forum software.

I got all kinds of reward badges as well.

 

As for the age there might be something possible, but I am afraid we can only do "81".

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Yup, unfortunately it did. What you see is new ranking system with new award system and achievements. I have two options here. Leave it like it is and everyone starts from 0 or I can manually assing appropriate number of rank points if thats what person would like. So if you know how much points you har approx. let me know and  Ill make an adjustment for you, just send me a PM. I already did this for Cerbera. 

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4 hours ago, Igor said:

... What you see is new ranking system with new award system and achievements...

I don't really care about the ranking, but could we please get rid of the badges?

I am now constantly getting notifications for every post or reply I make that I have earned a new badge. Simply liking someone's post got me yet another badge.

Have now already 8 badges. It's crazy. Please make it stop ...

 

EDIT: Just found the way to shut up those notifications, in the Notification Settings.

 

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3 minutes ago, dast said:

I don't really care about the ranking, but could we please get rid of the badges?

I am now constantly getting notifications for every post or reply I make that I have earned a new badge. Simply liking someone's post got me yet another badge.

Have now already 8 badges. It's crazy. Please make it stop ...

 

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It will stop, if I am not wrong system is awarding those based on your already accumulated points and so on. So you gonna have to be a bit patient, nothing I can do.

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