I stopped updating C4D around R20. Was using it side by side with Modo for some period of time. Main reason was cause C4D was more expensive to keep up with. So decided to focus more on Modo. Now, looking at releases of both, I must say I would like to see this level of development on Modo side. Just having Redshift is amazing step forward. So exactly what people here, that are complaining, are missing? I watched Rocket Lasso, what is new in R25, and there are few great things I would like to see within Modo. Also to mention I am using C4D for last two months regularly, got job that requires it, and honestly, it is breath of fresh air compared to latest Modo. So smooth workflow, 4k UI support, like color scheme, responsive UI when working on larger scene even with Redshift active, ooh and speed of Redshift. Did not play with Scene Nodes yet, but already see how smarter was developed compared to Modo MeshOps.