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Well, I asked for the new price of upgrading a permanent license and it cost 1800€+VAT 2019 ---> Upgrading to the newer permanent license ----> 600€+VAT ( +Cineversity 1 year of subscription, + assets, +support service) 2020 ---> Upgrading to the newer permanent license ----> 1000€+VAT ( no civersity, no assets, support for 3 months) 2021 ---> Upgrading to the newer permanent license ----> 1800€+VAT ( no civersity, no assets, support for 3 months) What a shameless company. Mograph was just a magic trick to put your dirty hands in our pockets and steal our money. Let's move to Blender asap.

I think I was not clear. I liked R21, I paid for it. After that, Maxon make sure to make me impossible to upgrade my perpetual license again. 1/ removing Cineversity from the upgrading 2/ increasing upgrading from 600€ to 1000€ 3/not giving you SXX versions where they are released, and offering them only to subscription users 4/removing you from getting to download new assets they deliver every update, now for only subscription users Not only that but new versions of C4D are just completely garbage (cost/new tools proportion) except for a few little improvements. For example all the UV upgrades are crap, when they have not even released UDIM worfklow in 2021. But you have cheap solutions (less than 100$) like Rizom Lab, that let you do tons of stuff regarding to UV process, with much more powerful,deep and fast tools. Also I found pretty weird that they release utilities like Magic Bullet (useless) while they don't improve multi thread speed in tons of utility tools. For instance, create a VDB is like 10 times slower than if you create the same VDB in Houdini. So I think I will not upgrade in 6 years (until I recover my 3500€ initial payment) meanwhile I will look on Houdini/Blender/Unreal to transition to better/cheaper/useful software. And Did you guys hear that MAXON is going to make Redshift only subscription? The same bad move again to their own users.

I agree with you, maybe they bring subscriptions to compete with Blender, but at the same time they fucked up their perpetual license users increasing 2x the update cost that year. in 2017 I paid 600€ for upgrading my c4d license. Next year they asked me to pay 1200€ or 600€ for a subscription.... Which makes you think, Who the fuck is going to pay 3500€ and next year say: Ok I will go with subscription. has no sense and it's a robbery to perpetual users, the ones that support c4d every year. After all this crap, I just realize I never going to update my c4d again, lose a lot of money... So I start looking into another software, and Blender which is free, has all the support from EPIC, with full compatibility with Unreal. Very powerful and FREE tools.

In my opinion MAXON steal perpetual users a lot of money. Increasing the price of updating license, and removing access of Cineversity or assets from content browser. Not only that, but Redshift is going to remove perpetual licenses too. With 3500€ I could have buy almost 6 years of subscription, but now, I don't have the money and I don't have the subscription either.... only a piece of paper that I own a crappy software R21 license. I have nothing more than hate to Maxon right now, after wasting 3500€ in his shitty software, they deserve every company pirate their software. I really hope they bankrupt soon and C4d disappear from the earth. Welcome Unreal 5 and Blender. So I am very happy now to nevermore pay to this corrupt company again.