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With a fully open case and no side panels, you should have reasonable temperatures. Just to be sure we've checked everything: Remove the radiator and fans from the top of the case, even without the panel that top metal mounting surface has far too many flat metal surfaces blocking off the airflow. You haven't left the thin plastic film on the copper coldplate head? (the bit that attaches to the cpu) There is some grey thermal paste in-between the copper coldplate and the cpu surface, it will be a thick goop or a very thick pre-applied paste. The pump is running at 100% speed and is not slowing down based on any temperatures, check this in the motherboard bios. The radiator fans are always spinning at at least 25% of their full speed You can hear/feel water flowing through the pipes/pump The coldplate is attached tightly to the cpu with no easy movement There are no cables or pipes blocking the top fans from spinning ---- I wouldnt use your case regardless of heating problems, and also no, I wouldnt buy that open case you linked: there will be no airflow over general system components, so your VRM power delivery blocks around the cpu will get hot and have nothing to significantly cool them. Also, it will get dusty as heck with no air filters, clogging up the cooling and making it look like arse unless you vacuum it every few weeks.
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Oh god, that case is horrific, im not surprised your poor computer is baking itself to death. You have a giant 200mm fan at the front, and a slab of solid metal in front of it. 3 large fans at the top... and a giant slab of metal in the way. There is zero chance of having a powerful system in this case that doesn't cook itself like a Sunday roast. Grab any of these cases and all your problems will fade away. Fractal meshify or torrent Corsair 5000D airflow (make sure its the airflow version, not rgb) Lian Li Lancool 2 mesh (make sure its the mesh version)
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Tip of the day: The LED version with the exact same memory modules is 20% cheaper for no sensible reason: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/128gb-4x32gb-corsair-ddr4-vengeance-rgb-pro-black-pc4-28800-3600-non-ecc-unbuff-cas-18-22-22-42-rgb?gclid=CjwKCAjwjZmTBhB4EiwAynRmD9GNcy6GljuK38Rk-mLQ72Wf2FC5_izTJDRtQQ_NvDryVD86_Hh4AxoCKAYQAvD_BwE Don't worry about them being a couple of years old, absolutely nothing interesting has happened in the world of DDR4 memory modules for quite a while.
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The point of the photo was so that we could see the rest of the case. which you've removed. Basically we need to see what the fans are pulling air through. If you have a solid glass front panel and solid metal top panel then there is no chance of keeping this system cool. If you have the model name of the case we can also use that to check it out. Regarding fans, it looks like you have 2 fans at the front pulling air into the case, 3 fans at the top pulling air in, and only a single exhaust fan at the back. This will make for an incredibly unbalanced system. You need to have the top fans flipped over so they are blowing air out the top, not pulling it in. A vertical gpu also wont help, with the fan blades right up against the glass it will struggle to cool itself compared to a horizontal arrangement The top of that case is also very closed off just with the metal framework, like half of that radiator mounting area is solid flat metal with a small gap in the middle
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Can you send us a photo of your system from this angle please. We need to see the front of the case, the top of the case and the rear fan (take the side panel off for the photo)
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Probably also worth checking, were you having stability issues with the memory set to xmp mode or was this the base spd speed of the memory?
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Theres nothing wrong with maxq laptop gpus, theyre just set up with different power/performance/fan speed profiles. In terms of speed, sure, knock them down effectively one performance bracket. ie a maxq 3080 will perform like a regular 3070, but it also wont sound like a spacex landing. If the choice is between a 2070 and a maxq 3070, I would happily take the 3070.
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For amd systems, you want to aim for 3600mhz specifically, this is because the memory is ddr, double data rate; which means its base clock speed is exactly half, ie. 1800mhz. 1800mhz is the sweet spot because thats the maximum stable memory bus speed of x570 motherboards, essentially the point where youre getting great performance whilst also remaining stable. After that is the CL, cas latency, this is how short the intervals are between sending new data back and forth, the lower the better, but anything below CL18 is fine, CL14 tends to be the lowest it goes, but larger memory sticks tend to be higher on the scale due to the extra overhead of handling the higher capacity. Don't increase the voltage, there's no reason at all to do this outside of enthusiast overclocking, all you need to do is get the memory running at the rated XMP profile speeds, the memory and motherboard will negotiate the voltages themselves. As far as "theyre made in china" goes.... your entire computer was made in china. And your phone, and your tv, and your laptop, and your car's electronics... If we're avoid chinese electronics then you're going to be in a cave smashing rocks together. For 128gb kits, The gskill one you linked will be fine, but looking at the specs its very likely to be the same chips as this corsair kit: Corsair 3600mhz cl18 - CMN128GX4M4Z3600C18 https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Memory/VENGEANCE-RGB-RT-Black/p/CMN128GX4M4Z3600C18#tab-tech-specs They aren't on the validated list yet because theyre brand new, but they are tested and will be compatible. One question, did you update your motherboard bios? this would always be my first action after getting memory errors which arent fixed by setting the memory down to default settings.
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Honestly, to get any sense of quality differences you need to specify which exact product youre talking about, and I mean the exact product SKU code, because even different batches will vary over time. Ram gets graded into different specs. The stuff that doesnt perform so well at high speeds gets turned into value/budget sticks. The good stuff will become the mainstream product and the very best chips get turned into their premium high speed product, the same goes for all memory manufacturers. Asking about "gskill 3600mhz ddr4" memory, is like asking what I think about the red hyundai car with 4 wheels. Even the memory capacity is going to make a difference because different size sticks use different dies and ranking.
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Maxon's Spring 2022 Launch Event | Live Stream | S26 Announcement
Mash replied to HappyPolygon's topic in News
One thing I haven't seen mentioned (and to be fair, maxon seem to have skipped over it) is that you can now work over the network at more or less full speed. Loading and especially saving is now multiple times faster than it was before. A quick test here over a 1gbit network Saving 800mb c4d file over gigabit network R25: 32 seconds R26: 9 seconds If you have a faster network connection then the speed improvement becomes even higher. With a 10gbit network you can expect file transfer times to be up to about 10x faster than in R25. -
The seller is telling you that his slower product is just as fast as a faster product, not sure I'd entirely believe that. On an AMD system, higher memory speeds will make a difference due to the way the system accesses memory. How much of a difference there is depends on the other specs of the chip (dual rank, CL latencies etc) but all else equal, you would get a 5-10% difference between them. I genuinely would happily buy corsair memory in future (ive used them for every machine Ive ever made, including my current machine) but, I work for them, so obviously don't trust me.
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I dont believe theres a single laptop you could possibly buy that doesnt support external monitors. where di you read that?
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Only possible option you have now is to right click the file and select "restore previous version", but that only works if you have a backup drive enabled. Otherwise youve just learnt to not keep endlessly overwriting one single file. Its the ultimate eggs in one basket scenario.
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Holy crap, they still make Dopus!? I used to use that on the Amiga 25 years ago, it was amazing
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The GB Aero seems superior in almost every way, an easy choice imho.
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Keep in mind winzip and winrar are commercial apps. They will keep working after the trial ends but you will get popups you have to dismiss. 7zip is completely ad/payment free. Just one bit of advice, run 7zip once as admin, then turn off all the right click menus you dont need in the preferences, as it adds quite a few by default
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But you can. Just right click any file and select "Send to -> Compressed (zipped) folder" But the answer to your question is 7zip. https://www.7-zip.org/
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Thats the problem with Octane. If youre happy with its render speed, visual style, and how quickly you can work up materials and lighting, then anything else is going to be a bit of a letdown. Arnold is far more stable and has some more complete and production ready features, but the work done with it is dominated by those using cpu-based farms. Redshift gpu in my experience simply isn't faster to render than Octane. It is better at doing quick cheats like simple fog vs octanes mega slow volume mediums, and faint transparent objects struggle less in RS than Octane, but Redshift completely falls apart on any system with more than 3-4 gpus. 12 gpus in octane is 12 times faster. 12 gpus in redshift... a) it doesnt support 12 gpus, b) of the 8 gpus it does support, it will only be 4 times faster So its fine on a workstation, but rendering anything serious with it gets quite annoying because you end up needing multiple weak nodes instead of having a small number of powerful machines.
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Maxon's Spring 2022 Launch Event | Live Stream | S26 Announcement
Mash replied to HappyPolygon's topic in News
Regarding redshift cpu/gpu. C4D standalone now includes redshift on your cpu, just select it as the render engine and the interface will switch to redshift lights, cameras and materials. If you have maxon one or a redshift subscription, c4d will continue to use the gpu in your system, you haven't lost anything As far as speed goes, currently expect your gpu to be roughly 10 times faster than your cpu on a balanced system. eg 16 core ryzen + 3090, 12 cores + 3080, 8 cores + 3070, 6 cores + 3060. If you have a gpu licences of redshift, there is currently no reason to switch to, or enable the cpu version, it will be significantly slower, even enabling both cpu and gpu at the same time will be slower than gpu alone. It will get faster with time, but nobody know by how much or how soon it will happen. It is mostly there to guarantee that every system can render with the new render engine and so that cpu render farms can take on these rendering tasks. If you have a vaguely modern computer and a redshift licence, there is no reason to use cpu mode at all. For those who have commented along the lines of "my gpu isnt very good, ill use the cpu version instead", even a cheap old geforce 1060 will likely be faster than any consumer cpu. In short, use the gpu version if you can, the cpu engine is just there for potato computers. -
1. The feature nobody expected, and nobody wants: Emoticon generator. Move a series of sliders to control joy, anger, nervousness and sanity to create a vector spline emoticon. 2. The feature they've sneakily removed without telling anyone: All right click menus, this was done to prevent touch screen users of c4d from having a different experience from mouse and tablet users. 3. New feature, but can't be used in production A new render engine has been written from the ground up, but it only works on Ti graphing calculators up to 3Mhz. 4. New way to screw over perpetual licence owners ZBrush has been integrated into C4D, but all brushes require a Maxon one subscription. Perpetual licence users are limited to a 1 pixel wide brush.
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A real glass half full post here 😉 What about "New feature, but it can't be used in production" or "New way to screw over perpetual licence owners"
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Nope, it is what it is. Your only hope would be to submit an idea on the maxon website asking them to increase the zbuffer, especially for wireframes, to 32bit. currently it is either 16 or 24bit, which isnt enough to draw them accurately.
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I think hes not asking why the lines along the joints are missing, but rather why do the lines overshoot and cross over each other. The answer is the z-buffer. Everything in 3D space essentially has a depth assigned to it so that C4D knows which items to composite in front of, or behind others. This z buffer only has so much detail, when surfaces overlap with each other, there's always a little inaccuracy where they meet. This problem is worse for the wireframe which gets composited over the top of the shaded 3D view because its better to stay on the cautious side to make sure the wireframe can be seen, rather than risk it vanishing behind geometry where surfaces meet. This issue is exaggerated on scenes where model models meet at very shallow angles, or on shots where the camera is far away, but optically zoomed in.
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Goddam I'm handsome