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A question - I have a license for 21 I don't use Cinema often enough to justify any of the subscription options I would be happy sticking with 21 except for the UV tools Is there any path for me to get the new UV tools without paying a fortune? Thanks for any advice you've got

Rhino is Vectorworks + AutoCAD minus all the awkwardness

Thanks for the reply. Kind of complicated but I'm sure I'll get used to it.

Previously, my MSA allowed me to install Cinema on two computers. I just downloaded and installed 21 on one computer and when I attempted to install it on my second computer I got a screen saying 1 used / 1 available Is this correct?

I hope you're right. That's how I read the situation.

Now I'm confused. My MSA renews in March. Do I have to renew now to get 21 or am I good to go as is? Thanks in advance for any clarification you can offer.

I'm glad 3D-Pangel and RBarret got this cleared up. It was the one question that bothered me. But I think this forum and the CGTalk forum (and any others) should have a banner at the top that says: LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP - YOU LOSE YOUR PERPETUAL LICENSE IF YOU ACCEPT THE DISCOUNT TO CONVERT TO SUBSCRIPTION I can't imagine anyone would consider the cost savings from the discount balances out against no longer having a perpetual license.

There's another significant difference. You get a discount by moving up the ladder if you start with Prime. So, for instance, if you own Prime and want to upgrade to Broadcast, your price is less than if you were buying Broadcast outright. BodyPaint isn't in the lineup, it's a stand alone application. If you own BodyPaint and want to upgrade to Broadcast the price is the same as buying Broadcast as a new user.

Looks like a major release but it also makes me wonder if MAXON is looking at an EOL for Bodypaint. The program is now so far behind the times, it's UV tools are so cumbersome compared to other applications that it seems MAXON has no interest in its future. Or at least it seems that way based on today's release.

Had a similar experience to you - one company slid from dominance to irrelevance over the course of 2 years, another company with offices in NY, Miami, LA & Portland announced on a Friday that paychecks were going to be delayed a couple of days and then closed their doors on Monday (but they made good on the paychecks). I'm freelance now. There's ups and downs with this kind of life but at least I'm not at the mercy of somebody else's bad accounting practices. You have to be out in the field, banging on doors, following up leads, always looking for the next client. And you have to be available to work anytime, weekends and evenings, in order to compensate for the days that you don't have work. But I've done well the last couple of years so right now freelance seems the way to go for me. You might want to try it.

Thanks for the quick reply

Am I correct in reading the product page to mean that after paying for a permanent license there's a $250 yearly maintenance fee that, if not paid, the software will not function? Or does the product page mean that keeping the maintenance current means you'll be able to use any new version but if you don't paythe maintenance fee you'll still be able to use the version you bought.

The investment bubble and the expanding use of cryptos are two different things. The investment bubble could burst without affecting the expansion of cryptos as financial vehicles. Sort of like the Internet stock bubble - because that burst doesn't mean the Internet went down with it. Cryptos are probably here to stay.

The email says the MSA hasn't been increased since the year it began - 2008. And in the Americas this will only affect the Studio version.

I'm not sure that Bloomberg Tech can be so easily dismissed as 'fabricated crapola'. In fact, my concern about this is magnified due to the source.

I have some interest in Houdini and would like to more about it but whenever there's a Houdini thread, I just skim the first couple of lines of every post and don't bother to drill down to the details because Houdini threads always become .... like this. Redshift threads, Octane threads, Corona threads - I always learn something new. But Houdini threads are like wandering out on a battlefield, trying to dodge the cross fire.

Entered this code but no discount showed up - or is the discount already factored in on the product page? Anyone know?

Never understood why Cinema leaves vertices behind after deleting a polygon. Now I see how it can be useful. I work primarily in Rhino and every so often I'll find when I'm working close in on a model that I've accidentally deleted something on the far side. Then I have to undo, undo, undo ..... etc. This would solve that problem.

Imagine how futuristic that must have looked in 1936

Are you sure about that? I assumed the MSA was for one year starting whenever you bought it. Am I wrong ? I purchased an MSA mid year because it was on sale and because I wanted to get away from the August 'should I or shouldn't I' routine. My license is for BP so it's only a few hundred bucks and I'm happier just knowing it's already paid for when August rolls around.

One thing to keep in mind - clients often don't know how long things take. When they come to you with an unrealistic schedule and you're not able to complete the project in time, they think it's fair not to pay. It's not so much they intend to rip you off but they've created an impossible situation without knowing they've done so and then blame you for the consequences. It's part of our job as the artist to give them an estimate of how long projects will actually take. As others have said - make sure you get a reasonable amount of money up front.

I'm a Bodypaint user and I was disappointed about how few improvements are available to Prime and Bodypaint. But I understand it - MAXON can't win one way or the other. If most of the new features are available to the lower cost versions, Studio users complain that they're being overcharged. If they're not available to Prime and Bodypaint customers, MAXON gets criticized from the other direction. I'll be happy with the new viewport and I expect that next time around many of the new features such as UV tools will be for Bodypaint. So, I'll wait. (not quite sure how that quote got attached to my post)

Will Prorender ship with Bodypaint?

I think it's kind of funny that both Maya and Modo can justify this year's releases being short on new features by explaining that they're 'stability' releases. Cinema can't use that as a cover because it's always been rock solid. So, in effect, MAXON gets hammered for being the good guys. Presumably it takes longer to develop a new feature that's rock solid rather than Modo's past logic which seemed to be to release new features that were filled with bugs, rarely worked as advertised and often crashed the program and hope no one would notice.

Just got around to reading the blog post. They should have titled it - No UV Tools, Maybe Next Year. I think it's what they were trying to say.