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I feared this day would come. This is really sad to hear, but not unexpected if I'm honest. I'm not good at this stuff, but I still want to try: Thank you to everyone who has been running this forum in some form or another, be it via moderation or paying the servers out of their own pockets. Thank you for the invaluable help on the many questions over the years, as dumb as they sometimes maybe were. I would NOT be in the same position as I am right now if it wasn't for this forum. Not even close. And I am sure I am not the only one with this experience. This forum always was a positive energy in my life and I am sad to see it go. I came back here regularly even when I switched to Blender for two years, that should tell you everything you need to know about this community. The internet as we know it is unfortunately changing, and has been for years. And it is not for the better. Corporate got it's greedy grip around it at this point, and way too tightly. Everything is centralized now. Giant tech companies are able to build userbases with free access to their services while bleeding out competition, until they suddenly remove free tiers and / or increase pricing after years and years of running on a loss. This will happen to all these AI tools too, the moment investor money dries up (and it's already drying up, after the devastating news about AI investments recently). Comparatively small ventures like this forum are simply not able to do that, and I fear the time of forums in general is just over. They were already down years ago, and then Discord arrived started kicking the corpse. How ANYONE can think Discord is a legit replacement for old-style forums really has no idea what they're getting into. Just to make it clear, I think creating a Core4D Discord just to keep in contact with each other is a really cool idea that I support. So I'm not specifically talking about the people here with this post. But 10-15 years from now people will mourn "the great loss of information" because Discord WILL shut down / restrict access at some point and all that knowledge collected on these Discord servers will vanish. Not to mention the many people we will simply "lose in translation", especially probably many of the old guard how simply can't be bothered to switch to yet another platform. Discord servers can't really be found via Search Engines either. I'm not even sure Discord is even going to make it another 10 years, judging by how much it has already been enshittifed in the last year. As far as I know, they're prepping to go public. We all know what that means in the long term.

Is the company on Instagram ? I have a semi decent following / Presence there. Maybe i could reach out to them ?

Revenue from ads is significantly lower since Google was driving the ad unit value down in past years. It simply is not viable anymore as it was. To get something out of it one would have to spam the whole site with endless ads and in return get around 15% of running costs. Plus, everyone hated ads. We were open to collaboration with company which benefited greatly from this forum but our attempts to initiate contact and potentially preserve this rare community failed, there was no response to our query, they probably get thousands of mails daily. At the end, it was really unsettling to have few members bearing the cost of it all, often felt like exploiting their enthusiasm and love for C4D.

I setup a Discord server as fast as I could. Feel free to join in to keep in touch with the rest of our members. You can also invite other people you trust. https://discord.gg/RCDPYvhR

While I've moved on from C4D to Houdini over the last few years, I've continued to drop in here on occasion to for old times sake - and I'm sad to hear this news, but not really surprised. There are always many more takers than givers, and those who give can only give so much. When I was using Cinema - which I did for over 20 years - I always found this community to be a very friendly and helpful place, and a great source of knowledge. So, thanks to all the 'givers'. You know who you are. Your contributions were generous and appreciated gifts.

We have a news sub category towards the bottom of the list but could certainly do a better job of keeping up to date with it

Oh probably the obligatory industry announcements? I like reading from it in the forum. 🙂 BTW, @Corebot If you plan to archive the content, I can help with that. Basically, using static pages and pay only for the domain ($20 max per year I guess) and I think you already own the c4dcafe.com so I guess that's fine. No server cost needed. We can do it on astro or docusaurusu. Let me know!

Thank you to Nigel for starting the first incarnation of this forum years ago. Thank you to Igor and the others who on and off assisted and kept it running thereafter. Thank you to Hrvoje for helping out with great insights, answers and supportive training all the way back from the fun Vertex Pusher days to today, your calm and helpful manner really helped demystify C4D. When the forum goes I hope this won't be the last we'll ever see a video from you. Maybe the interest isn't there, but if you ever felt the need you could always record a video and Maxon could just pop it on their official Youtube channel. Anyone who watched it would be more informed after. Thank you to all the contributors to this forum, including some who haven't posted in this thread and may not - Mash's smart obervations, comments from the regulars, all the usual gang. Thank you to the Maxon staff who chipped in, including Noseman a few times, and even David McGavran. Things are what they are and I appreciate the time they took to add comments, even though some obviously wish the assistance went further. Thank you to the Maxon staff who pushed C4D development all these years, kind of interesting this forum is wrapping up just as C4D finally shrugs off the teething problems of its decade of core rewriting and enters the period of finally adding those long awaited new features. This was a very calm and friendly forum, even when the occasional thread flared up over the handful of small disagreements, most of which funnily enough were about whether Maxon was doing the right thing or not. All that goes into the past. Interesting to observe that C4D outlived Modo and Softimage, avoided the brick wall of development that Lightwave hit, and is now a far bigger player than before. The discussion of whatever C4D 2026 offers will be probably a bit muted and melancholy, but end of an era, this forum has commented on the evolution of C4D release by release since all the way back to 8.5 or 9 I think. I will keep an eye on the Discord thread but there was always something orderly and understandable about forum postings, the other social media discussion options always feel a bit messier and noisier. But like Hrvoje said it is what it is. Most forums disappear eventually but this one was always more useful, friendlier and enjoyable than most.

Nice one man, any suggestions for the server or ideas let me know, or feel free to leave a comment In feature requests:) edit - also we’re hoping to move PolyRocket to a forum based format eventually, but as we’ve witnessed here, making that sustainable isn’t easy

Thanks for the link. Just joined! 🙂

Certainly ! https://discord.gg/wtbBftuQeg I’ve not been as active lately due to working on a Toy project, but now that’s finished I’ll be back there. I run it with a friend of mine who’s an ex University Maya lecturer , and fellow industry artist.

Nice. Can we have link for that? I would be happy to poke in and out every now and then.

Damn this sucks, 5 euros really wasn’t a lot to ask for, I completely forgot about it most of the time as it was such a low amount. is there no option To bring ads back? Yes its annoying but the alternative of not having the forum at all is surely a bigger concern @Corebot

I have a discord with around a thousand memebers, most are maya / blender users with a mixture of hobbyists and professionals, from the likes of adobe, frame store , autodesk etc etc. I’ve not made a C4d portion yet because there was no need for it , but happy for you guys to join and ill create a sub category for you

Ouch, that's heartbreaking... I was a subscriber, but I would have gladly paid more if I knew about the running costs and financial problems. Now it's too late, I guess? Is there a way to conserve the massive amount of knowledge that piled up here?

Sorry to hear that guys. Learned a lot in C4D throughout the years. I believe this is the only donation/subscription service I subscribed to for more than 2 years (?) ? Though admittedly I'm using C4D less and less these days especially that even Maya Indie/Houdini Indie/Blender is much more appealing. Still, most of my 3D knowledge come from C4D and I'm always grateful for that. @Corebot That said, is it possible to download users post? I'd like to save mine and store. Would be fun, personally, to look at through the years.

I must admit I have almost no motivation to join some Discord after forum closes down, it simply doesn't have the same allure or structure I enjoyed so much. For me personally, this was more than just a forum. Tried my best to help and am really sorry to see it go away. Time to move on - good luck everyone!

I second.. a discord would be nice especially with people like Hrvoje, Cerbera and others always dropping tasty bits of knowledge.

extremely sad! 😭 I guess it's an end of an era. It was great meeting all of you and engaging with this community! If any of you want to still stay in contact I frequent the scene nodes discord, cinema4d discord, arnold render discords... HappyPolygon and Hrvoje thanks for everything! Corebot, be proud that you managed to stick it out for so long in an era where social media dominates the community engagement on the internet. You actually managed to last longer than CG Society forums and that place was bustling back in the day! 20+ years is a long time and many platforms and businesses barely last that long. So you did well 🙂

Sad news. I subbed, considered cancelling a couple of times due to the low traffic occasionally (firing up around each release then gradually getting quiet again) but am sad to see this happen. Guys, feel free to make a Discord, there are Houdini and Blender and modelling Discords with lots of traffic, a C4D / Core4D one can keep the conversations and discussions going. I'd happily join it. Thank you to everyone who worked hard to run this forum, and thank you to everyone who posted here.

😑 Really sad.

It's a shame there wasn't some company we know who could have sponsored, even held collaborations with. . . but I guess they're too busy or need the money more. Good luck Core4D team.

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Oh man, that's very sad news! 😟 It's a real shame not more people were willing to subscribe. This place is a goldmine of knowledge! I've learned so SO much here, good talks, great people, fun competitions, end of an era! Thanks to everyone here, and especially all the people who kept this place going with all their time, money, energy and focus invested in this. You are the best!

Hello! I did auto-rigging in Mixamo, and then created an IK rig via the Character Object. For some reason it did some really weird things to the hands. These were not like that before the rig was applied. Can this be undone? I don't really want to start over as I've done a lot of things to the character and just noticed this. Thank you.