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Hey Cafe It seems that MAXON, whose Quick Tips videos used to be about the limit of what they did tutorial-wise (apart from Cineversity of course) have upped their game recently, and have just dropped the first 2 parts of what will be a massive 16 hour multi-part tutorial on building a space colony environment by Adam Benton. It's very thorough, and covers everything from initial sketches and planning through to render settings and post work. This will be most helpful for beginners and intermediate users to show them a complete project process I'd imagine, but also worth the more advanced of us giving it a look as it's quite an interesting project aside from any skills development. So just linking that for whoever hasn't seen it yet. Here's the first part - the 2nd part links on from that. Hopefully they'll be some more of these - and thanks MAXON for doing this one ! CBR

i dont really participate in these circle shirks, but this is just plain crazy. C4d doesn't always deliver what i want, but as you've noticed r10 and other old version still work great and do enough stuff, this just goes to show how great it is, that you are still using a piece of software that is nearly 10 years old. viewport performance has consistently improved from version to version. r15 was a massive jump. R17, while might've lacked "fun" features, had tokes and takes. Those 2 features have easily saved me $700 worth of time and then some. I loved r17! r18 for example i still haven't really completely covered because, most of the new features are kinda project specific. so my point is: while for hobbyists is might suck with the price tag, and it would be nice if they had an indie version. For professionals it is always more than worth the price. re:sidegrades: you can rent to own with cinema4D. and it actually turns out cheaper than buying and then paying MSA. so i don't get what people are complaining about. No one application can do everything. Other apps may have useful features, but none are as easy for sceen set up and proceduralism as cinema4D. houdinis nodes can do amazing stuff, but the object managers drag and drop and childer and parent thing is just amazing. Try using maya's outliner for organizing a scene with many objects.. god.. its torture.