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It looked at least three years away to me a year ago, and judging from the progress since then I would guess we're still three years away.

Congratulations to the Maxon team for another release of c4d! It was so much fun reading through the thread. So many articulate opinions and interesting posts. I specially enjoyed the ones with dramatic endings like "R.I.P. Maxon" or "Bye bye Maxon, hello Blender." So much passion :) Anyways, after playing with R25 for a couple of days, here are my two cents: - New UI: I was pretty happy with the old UI, so I wasn't expecting this one. Looks nice and I'm sure I'll get used to it in the future. I like the hot corners, tabs, new sliders, presets and new customization options. I can see myself tinkering with custom layouts for hours. Well done! - Track modifier tag: powerful and easy to use. - Capsules: Oh yeahhh! I am no programmer, but I consider myself a semi-technical 3D artist (as in not afraid to play with Xpresso, particles, fluid sims, etc...) When I started playing with scene nodes last year, I got confused and bored, but capsules make sense to me and open a whole parametric world of possibilities! So it is not a feature rich release, and I'm going to miss the content browser, but I can tell the Maxon team is working hard and I'm excited about the future of c4d. Congrats again and hope to see you all at NAB 2022 to toast to the new, complete, and kickass new core?

@Pinin Ah yes, Chris Jones! He used to be an avid LightWave user, achieving similar results. But at some point he made the switch to B, and his work got even better. Here's his famous LightWave eye: And his Blender version later: Scary how well done these are. He knows his stuff 🙂

Well, I would argue that it's literally nothing like that, but whatever. In my mind it's just routine customer maintenance and good business to try to take care of new and departing customers without having to make a killing on every single customer interaction. If nothing else it seems clear to me that Maxon's reputation for customer service and customer loyalty has completely tanked in the last few years, at least in the admittedly fishbowl communities we see online, fair or not, and there must be some reason for that.