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Hmmm.....then this meme may resonate with you: I am just surprised that they actually had meme's about C4D!! You may also find this YouTube presentation rather interesting: A rather frank and honest look at the capabilities of X-particles when dealing with some really large datasets (this guy's work is in 12K). Now, he is not knocking XP...But he is quite frank about the size of the files and the size of the computer you will need for large venue's. I did not listen to the whole thing, but it struck me as odd that he knocks Real Fluids (engineering grade software...but too slow) and never discusses Houdini. He makes it work with C4D and XP even though the caches get up to 500Gb.....you just need a 48 core computer with two RTX Quadro cards, Krakatoa and alembic output. Easy! Dave

New video available! This time we build a procedural page rig with MoGraph and Xpresso - enjoy :) https://www.youtube.com/c4dcafe

While I like Cinema and Redshift I'm pretty disappointing by this announcement since MAXON will likely make Redshift exclusive to C4D. Redshift was one of the few render engines that was licensed by machine, not by software, making it accessible in other packages without additional cost...... Hopefully they won't change that.

I recently did a survey of render farms and wanted to share the info I collected. All costs and times were estimates offered on their websites except for Pixel Plow which I ran a full job. My computer stats: i7-3770 3.4 GHz 4 core 8 threads 635 cb (Cinebench R15) 4.75 min/frame 791 frames 62h 37m (estimated render time on my computer) renderrocket.com $130.52 (Economy Mode) 1h 30m foxrenderfarm.com $42.48 (Ordinary - 100 nodes) 15m turborender.com $39.87 (300 nodes) 6m rebusfarm.net $36.92 (200 nodes) 48m ranchcomputing.com $32.25 (Emerald) 8m dropandrender.com $31.73 45m garagefarm.net $16.00 (Low Priority - 10 nodes) 3hr 35m rendercore.com $14.00 (Lowest) 15m I plugged in the same values for all the estimates, the render times are probably the least accurate because there were many options for price tiers that I assume give you faster render times for higher cost, but the prices listed here are all the lowest prices offered. RenderRocket I actually ran a free test render, they rendered 5 frames and they gave me a really high estimate, I don't know if it was a glitch or if they really are that expensive. I know this is far from comprehensive and probably not totally accurate to real world use, but I found actual comparative information sorely lacking online other than people just offering the names of websites they use, so I figured this might help someone who is looking for a quick comparison.